There is some disagreement among our older extended family members, but those who have done some genealogical research into Julia's (Larry's mom's) side of the family indicate this is probably the oldest photo yet found of Harriet (Julia's maternal grandmother - holding the baby), of Louise (Julia's mother - standing at far right), and otherwise mostly of Harriet's children (Louise's siblings and Julia's aunts and uncles). Assuming this is properly identified, the picture was taken about 1911-1912, when Mama Louise (as Julia's children called her) would have been around 13-14 years old.